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Friday, November 13, 2015

Keep doing what UR doing, keep getting what UR getting.

I miss the blathering of one of my favorite detractors. Maybe he finally got a clue that few people post publicly when they are fighting with and alienating their families while moving to a SRO. Maybe they found the right combinations of med.s for him, a chemical straightjacket that keeps him from embarrassing himself on facebook. I really don't know. But I miss him. Glad that the evidence of continued posts on YouTube indicates he's still on the face of the planet. As for the other two? I think they've got their pointless attacks out of their system for another year. I could be wrong and they could give me a surprisingly humorous gift yet! But I don't expect the clowns to have anything more to say directly to me this year.
I will say this, it's funny when a prolific facebook poster asserts that no one reads facebook posts or fan pages. Equally telling is the routinely poor turn out at the venue that he co-hosts due to a lack of supporting fan pages and posting about events. (psst No one reads your rambling uninformed political pablum. That's the issue.) Sure low numbers are to be expected from time to time. But oh well.

But this is my experience: https://www.facebook.com/thesunandmoongrp/ Over 600 in the top ten listings for page readers alone for this page! These people have viewed this page in the past 28 days. A population that provides word of mouth and further extends to those reading facebook music groups and SL event notices and clicking and sharing SoundCloud and Youtube links.


Of course the fact that your venue doesn't post regular updates and fan photos on either facebook or it's blog might have something to do with your turn outs. Ya think? And as far as your personal fan page? Well maybe if you attended to it rather than post weak all-been-said-before politics ad nauseam you might not ALSO be publicly posting about financial difficulties. Just a thought.

Wednesday, September 30, 2015

Just a lil food for thought... Venue Fees


Oh. A moment of clarity. Or rather a reoccurring moment of clarity. How insane is it to pay someone to perform in Second Life as a venue owner who receives no compensation? Pretty f*cking insane. Wow do I feel stupid. Pay to play and all in fun but it's gotta stop.

Ya That pretty much has to stop. Paying somewhere over X number of dollars U.S. a month to provide a place to perform and my time to support the events is more than enough compensation. To be honest I was trying to make things work on Cookie II/Kitely Grid because NMA was willing to pay X amount an hour to the artists I booked. I'm not sure why they did it except because Kitely needed some form of foot print? Maybe?

I'll tip X amount of Lindens from this point out pretty much what I started doing anyway. And stay open as long as friends wish to perform at my venue for the compensation of my efforts and what their fans tip them. That's how it should be anyway.

If your fans can not support you and make it worth your efforts to perform in loyalty or monetary compensation? Either you don't have a very good fan base or you need to face the possibility that you aren't very good. Also consider that not everyone measures success in dollar amounts.

Friday, September 25, 2015

SL Jams Suck Money Butt Chapt. IV

Chapt. IV The Phantom Menace I mean... The Plot Thicken!

Alan Fraser aka Silas Scarborough of Cat's MusikCircus claims equipment was stolen at the Dallas "jam" and they blamed him.



From Alan Fraser's Blog:
"It amuses me that multiple of the musico-types in Facebook think I'm complete shit because I'm pissed off that one of them ripped me off for around $10K which, to my knowledge, is the biggest rip-off of kit that ever happened in SL history. That they would ever look for respect from me is one endless mystery. None of them lifted a finger so the ones who knew of it and still did nothing don't rate as much more than potential Ebola victims to me. Fuck 'em."

The SL Jams Suck Monkey Butt Chapter III


We like it that way AND THAT'S FINAL!!

Rebekah Miller-Levy 

Before this whole conversation ran amuck, Roxy offered some sound suggestions for anyone who wants to organize a jam intended to provide an ideal listening experience for SL in-world listeners. Those suggestions, however, do not apply to the Dallas Jam. The targeted audience of the Dallas Jam is not, nor has it ever been, the in-world listener. The Dallas Jam is set up for the pleasure of the people who are sitting in the hotel room in Dallas. The Dallas Jam is an opportunity for friends to gather together and listen to great music while enjoying each other's company. Through the technology of live streaming, people who are in-world are allowed to eavesdrop. But like any eavesdropping situation, they might hear things they don't want to hear. (Misdirect coming in 3, 2, 1) Matthew works very hard to make sure the sound is awesome in the jam room. It's unfortunate that that doesn't transfer to listeners in-world. But it is what it is. Given that many musicians attend every Dallas Jam, I would suggest they are satisfied with the musical experience. I know the fans who return year after year think attending is worth the time and money. I respect Roxy's desire for a jam which focuses on the in-world SL listener and hope it happens, however, it won't be happening in Dallas in October.

Roxy Gellar 

No reason why it can be something to be proud of and watchable the first time via live stream and in world as well as into the future on YouTube. This is not rocket science. It really isn't. It also doesn't require a budget in league with the Grammies. It's too bad you see this as one or the other, fun or worthwhile quality. And yet there will be begging for Lindens in spite of the fact that more than one person has stated that there is no concern at all about in world... which begs the question: Why bother live streaming or providing the stream URL to venues in world?




Not even the worse example. Is that toilet paper? It's clear what's what. 
Poor Peter Francks, you aren't one of the cool kids. I would have posted 
the video directly but Blogger couldn't find it due to low viewer numbers.



Ch 3 Addendum: 
Renfield Played by Dee Sparta 

This even though across the board it's been stated that they do not and will 

not improve live stream video, audio to SL, or Youtube video. Throwing 

money away because some people aren't too bright and THAT is why SL 

music is in the shape it's in today. That and a certain few that are smarter 

than that but "go along to get along."






Thursday, September 24, 2015

SL Jams and organizational inability to tolerate constructive criticism.

Original Post from an anonymous sound guy on a Jam Event Page:

Howdy. Sound guy here. Been getting a lot of questions about what to bring, so I thought I'd lay a few things out to clarify what we're working with.


Firstly, SL jams have two audiences: RL and SL. Thus, all instruments need to be plugged into the board, else our SL folks won't hear them. Drums are an exception, since they bleed through the vocal mics just fine. R. can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe we have a drum set already rented/borrowed that everyone can use. Not all at once, of course.

Secondly, we only have 16 channels. That sounds like a lot, but once you plug in a line of vocal microphones, a bass, a keyboard, and put out a bunch of direct boxes for guitars and random bits, it fills up pretty quickly. Monster multi-output rigs may not find a home. Homeless rigs make the baby Jesus cry.

Thirdly, jams are best when there is room for spontaneous action. The smaller and more portable your particular bit of gear is, the easier it will be for you to get up and play with someone who invites you onstage. And when it's your turn in the spotlight, people are much more likely to hang around if it doesn't take ten minutes to set up your stuff. Think light and nimble. Like Ant Man. Small, but powerful. Commands insects.

Fourthly, per the firstly, amps are discouraged, not only because we would have to mic them, but also because they make mixing that much more difficult. Look, I'm a guitarist. I know the sweet bliss of turning a tweed-encased speaker up to 11 and letting it deafen the neighbors. However, jams are collaborative enterprises, and in the absence of rehearsal, it's invaluable to be able to hear your compatriots really well during the proceedings. There's only so loud I can turn up the monitors before the unpleasant type of deafening (complete with squealy horror) kicks in. Moderate stage volume is key. If you're gonna go electric, plug it into a direct box and I'll crank it so that you and everyone else knows you rock. I promise people will still cheer. And this way, you'll hear them.

Fifthly, have fun, dangit. It's a party. Alcohol helps. And hurts. But only later.


Lemme know if you've got any more questions. So long as none of them are about algebra. I suck at algebra.
___

My initial advise:
Can you do something to make people STFU? I can't watch videos from SL Jams. The noise level from egotistical loud mouths is deafening. How about this? If you can't stop your mouth long enough to listen to the artist playing? LEAVE THE ROOM.

The stages always need a LOT of help too. You would think that folks could do better than a hand drawn sign taped to the wall and a ton of equipment piled up in a corner. A black curtain around the back and the sides of the area of the hotel conference room floor designated as a stage could do wonders.
___

What followed was a lot of butt hurt replies from people who may be uncomfortable with constructive criticism. After all they know what they are doing, right? Well, what lends my critique validity?

I'm no stranger to live production, in the studio, the field, news, theater, a few concerts (trained by Malcolm Chisholm of Chess Records at Zdb Studios), and sports. I don't see why anyone would perform for other than writing off the trip from the videos I've seen. Sure, it's a kick ass time, no doubt. But nothing anyone with half an ear can listen to IMHO. JMTC

If you don't care what it looks like or sounds like? I don't see the point. Looks and sounds in the majority of the videos I've seen are on a par with a high school reunion. Great! Have a blast. You want to party? Who doesn't. But it's hardly the way to win over people who aren't interested in SL.


yada yada My amused retort of the absurdity of the levels of negativity I received:

A) *Sigh* I was afraid it would get ugly. Reminds me of a story:
Two kids are running around and they come up to an old barn. They go in and it's empty and abandoned. But in one stall is a HUGE pile of shit. The first kids gets an excited look on his face.

In a flash he's all elbows and asshole digging into the big pile of shit and flinging it over his head and out of the way.

The second kid asks, "What the Hell are you doing!?!"

The first kid pauses and says, "With all this shit here there much be a pony somewhere!"


B) How dare! How DARE! Anyone! Anyone suggest that traveling possibly hundreds of miles or more to actually listen to musicians performing at a musical event would be a good idea? That's just crazy talk! Listen to fellow musicians when one is not on stage themselves!?! Balderdash!

And the unmitigated audacity to suggest that live stream or video of the event should be of a standard and quality I would be proud of? Why that's just the product of a twisted and damaged individual. Best I ridicule and harass this person rather than be mature enough to realize the point. After all I may have something inane and purely without significance to spout during your set. My fans wouldn't want to miss it!!! BE! FAIR!

___

And finally a voice of reason from another view point! A solution presents itself!! What happens next is bound to be a disappointing result. But what can you do?


The SL Jams suck Monkey Butt

Chapter II - The Solution

Finally an intelligent voice? It sounded like patronizing to a degree. But there was probably no ill-will meant. And in fact CB provided half the solution if needed. And sparked further input based on experience for an inexpensive solution to the fact that SL Jams suck monkey butt.

My Reply:
I'm not confusing anything, CB. It's live streamed to SL as a music event. It's recorded as music performances. Both aren't anything anyone could listen to or be proud of. With a small amount of effort it could be worthwhile.

No point in reinventing the wheel. I suggest you take your marvelous idea, CB, and work with the people managing Jams. It seems they could use some one who is a step removed from the unvarnished (unintentionally um... indigestible to some) truth, such as yourself, and maybe take the Jam to a worthwhile place.

Somewhere in the above (original thread on facebook) it was said that it was meant as a way to bring in new listeners or fans? Presenting it in a way that elevates it from it's current look and sound, not unlike your analogy of a monkey house, would do that. The current look of a pocket change budget could already do that. But you could take it anywhere you like I suppose.

One last thing, Rent Com. One of the jobs I held working my way through college. I'm sure all cities have similar businesses that also already have long standing relationships in delivering to hotel conference rooms like those of the Jams. More than budget minded gear for your purposes. A small stage and/or curtain? No sweat.

http://www.rentcom.com/


http://www.rentcom.com/av-rental-catalog/Drape.html


http://www.rentcom.com/av-rental-catalog/Stages.html

SL Jams Suck Monkey Butt Ch. I & II

Original Post from an anonymous sound guy on a Jam Event Page:

Howdy. Sound guy here. Been getting a lot of questions about what to bring, so I thought I'd lay a few things out to clarify what we're working with.


Firstly, SL jams have two audiences: RL and SL. Thus, all instruments need to be plugged into the board, else our SL folks won't hear them. Drums are an exception, since they bleed through the vocal mics just fine. R. can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe we have a drum set already rented/borrowed that everyone can use. Not all at once, of course.


Secondly, we only have 16 channels. That sounds like a lot, but once you plug in a line of vocal microphones, a bass, a keyboard, and put out a bunch of direct boxes for guitars and random bits, it fills up pretty quickly. Monster multi-output rigs may not find a home. Homeless rigs make the baby Jesus cry.

Thirdly, jams are best when there is room for spontaneous action. The smaller and more portable your particular bit of gear is, the easier it will be for you to get up and play with someone who invites you onstage. And when it's your turn in the spotlight, people are much more likely to hang around if it doesn't take ten minutes to set up your stuff. Think light and nimble. Like Ant Man. Small, but powerful. Commands insects.

Fourthly, per the firstly, amps are discouraged, not only because we would have to mic them, but also because they make mixing that much more difficult. Look, I'm a guitarist. I know the sweet bliss of turning a tweed-encased speaker up to 11 and letting it deafen the neighbors. However, jams are collaborative enterprises, and in the absence of rehearsal, it's invaluable to be able to hear your compatriots really well during the proceedings. There's only so loud I can turn up the monitors before the unpleasant type of deafening (complete with squealy horror) kicks in. Moderate stage volume is key. If you're gonna go electric, plug it into a direct box and I'll crank it so that you and everyone else knows you rock. I promise people will still cheer. And this way, you'll hear them.

Fifthly, have fun, dangit. It's a party. Alcohol helps. And hurts. But only later.


Lemme know if you've got any more questions. So long as none of them are about algebra. I suck at algebra.
___

My initial advise:
Can you do something to make people STFU? I can't watch videos from SL Jams. The noise level from egotistical loud mouths is deafening. How about this? If you can't stop your mouth long enough to listen to the artist playing? LEAVE THE ROOM.

The stages always need a LOT of help too. You would think that folks could do better than a hand drawn sign taped to the wall and a ton of equipment piled up in a corner. A black curtain around the back and the sides of the area of the hotel conference room floor designated as a stage could do wonders.
___

What followed was a lot of butt hurt replies from people who may be uncomfortable with constructive criticism. After all they know what they are doing, right? Well, what lends my critique validity?

I'm no stranger to live production, in the studio, the field, news, theater, a few concerts (trained by Malcolm Chisholm of Chess Records at Zdb Studios), and sports. I don't see why anyone would perform for other than writing off the trip from the videos I've seen. Sure, it's a kick ass time, no doubt. But nothing anyone with half an ear can listen to IMHO. JMTC

If you don't care what it looks like or sounds like? I don't see the point. Looks and sounds in the majority of the videos I've seen are on a par with a high school reunion. Great! Have a blast. You want to party? Who doesn't. But it's hardly the way to win over people who aren't interested in SL.


yada yada My amused retort of the absurdity of the levels of negativity I received:

A) *Sigh* I was afraid it would get ugly. Reminds me of a story:
Two kids are running around and they come up to an old barn. They go in and it's empty and abandoned. But in one stall is a HUGE pile of shit. The first kids gets an excited look on his face.

In a flash he's all elbows and asshole digging into the big pile of shit and flinging it over his head and out of the way.

The second kid asks, "What the Hell are you doing!?!"

The first kid pauses and says, "With all this shit here there much be a pony somewhere!"


B) How dare! How DARE! Anyone! Anyone suggest that traveling possibly hundreds of miles or more to actually listen to musicians performing at a musical event would be a good idea? That's just crazy talk! Listen to fellow musicians when one is not on stage themselves!?! Balderdash!

And the unmitigated audacity to suggest that live stream or video of the event should be of a standard and quality I would be proud of? Why that's just the product of a twisted and damaged individual. Best I ridicule and harass this person rather than be mature enough to realize the point. After all I may have something inane and purely without significance to spout during your set. My fans wouldn't want to miss it!!! BE! FAIR!

___

And finally a voice of reason from another view point! A solution presents itself!! What happens next is bound to be a disappointing result. But what can you do?


The SL Jams suck Monkey Butt

Chapter II - The Solution


Finally an intelligent voice? It sounded like patronizing to a degree. But there was probably no ill-will meant. And in fact CB provided half the solution if needed. And sparked further input based on experience for an inexpensive solution to the fact that SL Jams suck monkey butt.


My Reply:
I'm not confusing anything, CB. It's live streamed to SL as a music event. It's recorded as music performances. Both aren't anything anyone could listen to or be proud of. With a small amount of effort it could be worthwhile.

No point in reinventing the wheel. I suggest you take your marvelous idea, CB, and work with the people managing Jams. It seems they could use some one who is a step removed from the unvarnished (unintentionally um... indigestible to some) truth, such as yourself, and maybe take the Jam to a worthwhile place.

Somewhere in the above (original thread on facebook) it was said that it was meant as a way to bring in new listeners or fans? Presenting it in a way that elevates it from it's current look and sound, not unlike your analogy of a monkey house, would do that. The current look of a pocket change budget could already do that. But you could take it anywhere you like I suppose.

One last thing, Rent Com. One of the jobs I held working my way through college. I'm sure all cities have similar businesses that also already have long standing relationships in delivering to hotel conference rooms like those of the Jams. More than budget minded gear for your purposes. A small stage and/or curtain? No sweat.

http://www.rentcom.com/


http://www.rentcom.com/av-rental-catalog/Drape.html


http://www.rentcom.com/av-rental-catalog/Stages.html

Friday, July 10, 2015

DeceptionsDigital in the Spotlight - Performing Friday, July 10th 2PM SLT

DeceptionsDigital (DD) found her passion in creating electronic music. DD started with simple sampler software. Mixing together pre-recorded melodies and samples she improved her knowledge about song structure and music theory.

Now she is mixing and mastering sounds and using a midi keyboard with professional composing software. She makes her own samples and field recordings with her own sound creation and resampling. Her electronic music creations, a process of "painting with sound." Her unique sound is a mix of genres of electronic music from dubstep to minimal, house, trance, and ambient.


December 2014:
http://apmel.blogspot.com/2014/12/dd-deceptionsdigital-i-paint-music.html

February 2013:
https://dings.wordpress.com/2013/02/11/videoprasentation-von-deceptionsdigital/

Machinima:
https://www.youtube.com/user/DeceptionsDigital

https://soundcloud.com/deceptionsdigital

Please invite friends and family. Invite your enemies and they will become friends! The right people will be there. But only if we tell them about it.

Friday, July 10th
Echo Starship! 1PM PST
Deceptions Digital 2PM PST